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Exclusive Interview for SpeedCenter by Greg Spotts
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Richie Hearn: You just have to keep on pushing and it all works out

 

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Greg Spotts met Richie Hearn at the Momo Grand Prix karting event in Southern California. The relaxed atmosphere at the event allowed us explore what it is that makes a person like Richie spend his only off-weekend in months like this: drive from Vegas to Irvine, CA in order to race go-karts around a mall parking lot in California's August heat.


 

Question: How are you feeling today, is it kind of a relaxed day of casual racing for a change?

    Richie Hearn: It's a lot of fun. This really goes back to my roots. I've spent a lot of time in my life racing carts, and I really feel close to it, so anytime I can get a chance like this and see a lot of old friends and race, it's a lot of fun, it's like a vacation for me.
Question: When was the last time you drove a Kart?

    Richie Hearn: I did a celebrity race like this right after Christmas.
Question: Do you remember how you placed?

    Richie Hearn: I won that race. It was a good race for me. Alex Barron was there and I beat him. It was on the cover of Kart News, so it was kind of cool. That was just for fun.
Question: Are these Karts identically prepared, you can't make any adjustments?

    Richie Hearn: I think that's how it's set up. We're just going to give it an eight-minute practice session and then go right into the race. There's really not any time to tune anything. It wouldn't be fair to do that anyway, because there are some people like myself who have a lot experience, and there's other drivers who don't, so I'd be able to have an advantage for sure.
Question: Are you on the lookout for some good drivers when you're down here, some youngster who might be your competition some day?

    Richie Hearn: Hopefully not, hopefully I'll be retired by then. [Laughs] I know there's a lot of good drivers that are racing Karts now that are just starting to get into cars. They are the future. Coming from go-carts here, you're going to see that if you didn't start young, you're not going to make it, that's just the way the sport's growing.
Question: How old were you when you first got in a Kart?

    Richie Hearn: I started when I was seven, started racing when I was eight. I raced nonstop since I was eighteen. I really haven't done much Karting since then, sporadically here and there. Racing Champcars takes up most of my time.
Question: Was it obvious to people that you were faster than the other seven and eight year-olds?

    Richie Hearn: I don't know. I started when I was seven and my dad made me practice for a year so I was fast enough to at least not get lapped and be in the way. I spend a lot of time practicing. When I first started racing when I was eight I was actually quite ready to run. I raced a lot of good guys, Alex Barron and I started on the exact same go-cart race, it was both of our first career race. I raced against Bryan Herta in Karts, and PJ Jones, and a lot of people who are moving up now.
Question: Did some of these guys have the same on-track persona and habits then when you were racing them in Karts?

    Richie Hearn: A little bit yeah. I'm sure people say the same thing about me. Everybody has certain driving traits that I don't think you can get away from.
Question: What would people say about yours?

    Richie Hearn: [Laughs] I don't really know, I've never asked anybody. I guess I'm pretty aggressive in the race. I give people respect out there on the track, and hopefully they feel the same way. I'm just always looking for a good race, whether it's for first, or for tenth, or whatever, I just like the competition of the whole thing.
Question: Are you a super-competitive person?

    Richie Hearn: Yeah, I'm motivated to win in anything I do. I could be playing pool with my friends, or driving go-carts, playing cards... Anything I do I'm very very competitive. Even when I play golf, I really don't even like to play unless there's some sort of money or game on the line. I don't really get much out of just beating the track, I get more out of beating the human element.
Question: Are you a good loser, or a sore loser?

    Richie Hearn: I'm actually a very bad loser, and I'm an even worse winner. I like to rub it in after I win with my friends. I think I do that to help motivate them, because they get so pissed off if I win and rub it in their face, they want to come back and try to beat me. It raises everybody's level. I've always been like that. Sometimes it's good, sometimes maybe I go a bit too far, but I'm not very graceful either way.
Question: Are you especially motivated to beat Robby Gordon today?

    Richie Hearn: I'm motivated to beat everybody, but definitely any of the CART drivers I want to beat.
Question: So maybe we'll see some wheel to wheel action?

    Richie Hearn: I'm sure you'll see some of that. You'll see some tire marks on these Karts when they come back, I think.
Question: So what did you bring here, what do you need when just show up to a race?

    Richie Hearn: I just brought my helmet and my suit,. That's it, that's all I got.
Question: Is it the same helmet that you use in your Champcar?

    Richie Hearn: Yeah, I've got the same suit, same helmet, same shoes, same gloves. Fortunately my stuff's from last year, because I forgot to bring the new stuff from the team truck. It's all the same stuff I wore last year.
Question: How many helmets do you go through a season?

    Richie Hearn: I go through between seven and ten per year. They get beat up pretty bad. You go to a place like Rio or Michigan, one time and they're trashed. You go through quite a few of them.
Question: Do you have somebody custom paint them for you?

    Richie Hearn: Yeah, I have Bulls Eye paint them. They're in Indiana. They did Zanardi's helmet last year, they do Adrian's helmet. I've been with them for six years now - they do a good job.
Question: What were your favorite races in this year's Champcar season so far, where you felt like you could get involved in the thick of the competition?

    Richie Hearn: I'd say we had a pretty good race going in Toronto until I had a little bit of contact with Cristiano. I had a really good race going at Michigan and had some electrical problems. We've had some sporadically good races, had a good race at Motegi, but it's been kind of dry. The results haven't been there. We've made a lot of changes this year, from the Swift to the Reynard, and the Toyota and all that stuff. I think it was maybe a little too much [change] for us to have that competitive of a year. We're going to keep everything for next year and it's going to be a real good thing for us.

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   Question: What happened to you there Richie, you were going to
    give me a victory speech?
    Richie Hearn: Yeah Yeah, I was working on it. But I just got a little loose there in turn one racing with Sean there, I wasn't going to lift, that's for sure, I never lifted for the corner. Maybe I should have, but, there's a little pride involved. It was all or nothing for me. I didn't care if I crashed I just didn't want to get beat.

Question: Is there a possibility you guys might have a two-car effort next year?

    Richie Hearn: I've heard that from other people, but I really haven't heard anything from John [Della Penna] about that. I think there are good things and bad things about having a two-car operation, if you can do it without taking away anything from the first-car team, sure why not. But I've only heard it from rumors, I haven't heard it from the boss himself.
Question: Are you and John Della Penna very close, are you mutually supportive?

    Richie Hearn: Oh yeah, we've been together for six years now. We're in this together, you win together and you lose together. There's no blame or anything, you just keep your nose down and keep trying.
Question: Which of the remaining five races do think the equipment that you have is going to give you the best shot?

    Richie Hearn: Probably Fontana. We started third last year, and were running fourth until an overheating problem at the end caused us to finish eighth. I like the 500-mile races at superspeedways a lot, I like the strategy involved and the planning. I'm looking forward to that race, plus it's a million dollars to win it, so if you're going to win one that's the one you want to win.
Question: Is there any extra fear at that high speed?

    Richie Hearn: Oh of course. You do not want to crash at those speeds, it is not a very happy thing to do.
Question: Do you feel much fear in the whole thing, do you just put it out of your mind, does it crop up at unexpected times?

    Richie Hearn: Sometimes -- You could be going along and something breaks, sometimes it's just out of your control. It's playing in the back of your mind, especially if it's happened to you, which it has. I had a testing accident at Homestead right after spring Training. The engine blew, I hit the wall, had to spend the night in the hospital with a concussion. There was nothing that I could do about it. You do kind of think about it [the fear] it's not something you want to always think about, but it's there.
Question: Do you ever get bruised or banged up just by racing the car?

    Richie Hearn: Oh yeah, definitely. After Mid-Ohio I was pretty sore, my shoulders were really sore. You get bruised from the seatbelts, from the stopping and the left and right turns. It just depends on the track, but you do get beat up a little bit.
Question: Do you have moments of pure joy in the car, where you still remember how much fun it is to be driving one of the fastest race cars in the world, or is there too much pressure to have that happen?

    Richie Hearn: It's not too much pressure, but you have your bad days and your good days. Unfortunately for us, it's been pretty dry like I said. The last couple of years have been real tough. We still have our good moments. Last year at Michigan, I led the race, and finished fifth, had a chance to win. Those type of moments you carry with you for a long time. I definitely have had some good drives this year, maybe the results weren't there, but stuff that I've enjoyed, and that's what keeps you going.
Question: How did you feel about watching Juan Montoya, what does it make you feel like to see a 23 year old rookie come in and be that good?

    Richie Hearn: It doesn't please anybody, that's for sure. We're all busting our balls out there and he comes in with a really good ride and has great success right away. You can't take anything away from him, he's doing a great job, he hasn't made any big mistakes. He's definitely got a lot of talent, you can't fault him for that.
Question: Do you think it's going to be a similar situation like when Tiger Woods came into golf? At first his drive was so long people were worried they couldn't compete, but then some of the key players raised their level to match him?

    Richie Hearn: Definitely you rise to the level of your competition. If there really wasn't anyone good out there, no one would be that good. That's what keeps you pushing, is to beat that one guy. The better he is, the better it makes everybody else.
Question: Who's the toughest person to pass?

    Richie Hearn: I'd say there's a few guys out there. Robbie's pretty tough to pass, and Paul's pretty tough to pass, and Mark Blundell is pretty tough. There's some guys who are tougher than others, and it just depends on how their day is going and what position you're fighting for, really.
Question: Is there anybody who intimidates you when they appear in your mirrors?

    Richie Hearn: Not really, not anymore. When I first started in CART, I used to get a little intimidated by people like Michael and Al, people you'd been watching your whole life. But now you feel like you have to get over that. You have to feel like you're one of them. You pass them once or twice and you feel like you can race with them. I give them all respect and try to get the same out of them.
Question: Do hang out with any of the other drivers?

    Richie Hearn: I think everybody keeps to themselves a little bit. There's some drivers that hang out with each other quite a bit. There's a couple of people that I'm pretty good friends with. I'd say I'm pretty good friends with Jimmy and PJ, there's some other guys that I talk to quite a bit. But really I kind of do my own thing outside the track. You know when I'm hanging out with those guy I really try not to talk about racing anyway, because it's our job, and it's nice to do other things. I play golf with Jimmy and talk about other stuff. There's other things besides racing in life, and I try to enjoy it all.
Question: Who wins those golf matches between you and Jimmy?

    Richie Hearn: Jimmy's pretty good. He and I are actually pretty even. He lives on a course so he plays quite a bit. We both can play about the same, it just depends on how the day is going for you.
Question: What did you feel like when you picked up that banner at Long Beach?

    Richie Hearn: It wasn't one of my best moments, but it got me a lot of press, that's for sure. Fortunately nothing really bad happened out of it. It was kind of a goofy thing, especially since it was a Toyota banner that I picked up.
Question: We thought it was one of the great finesse driving moments of the year, just wiping that banner off your helmet.

    Richie Hearn: I couldn't see anything. I was completely blinded. I think I was lucky just to make it around the track without hitting anything.
Question: What goes on when you're driving in the rain, are you getting wet and is there water leaking inside the helmet?

    Richie Hearn: Not inside the helmet, but it depends on how much rain. At Cleveland this year it rained pretty hard. The water was actually coming in through the lower wishbones on the front and getting my feet wet.
Question: Was there a bilge building up in the footbox?

    Richie Hearn: Yeah, I wish I had a bilge pump. You almost needed a rudder to get around that track. It just depends on how hard it's raining and how slow you are going. If you're going on the pace laps, yeah you're going to get wet, but at speed you don't get wet.
Question: Because of the airflow?

    Richie Hearn: Yeah, it just goes right over you.
Question: When you're on a pace lap, is your steering wheel getting wet?

    Richie Hearn: Yeah, your hands are soaked and you're steering wheel is getting wet and everything.
Question: What's it like looking through that visor with all the moisture on it?

    Richie Hearn: If you want to find out, drive around without your windshield wipers on behind a big semi in a rainstorm, and you'll know what it's like. It's actually been bad enough at Portland last year and Cleveland this year where I couldn't even see my dash. I was just kind of going by memory on how the track was. It's not the safest thing you can do, but it's what we get paid to do, and you just have to keep on pushing and it all works out. I like driving in the rain, but racing in the rain stinks because you just can't see, the visibility is just not very cool. Every time it rains, I have good races, I finish in the points and everything. It's not something that I always pray for.
Question: Do you feel like a celebrity, are there places you go where you're treated like one?

    Richie Hearn: I don't know, sometimes, not really. To tell you the truth, I really would never want to get to that point where people recognize me. You gotta have some privacy in your life. I really don't envy rock stars or hollywood types that get recognized everywhere they go. The only time I really ever get recognized is when I go to the go-cart tracks, because I did it for so long. These people are involved in racing, they see me around. I would never want to be recognized anywhere, it would be a real pain in the ass.
Question: Except for the beautiful women, I guess?

    Richie Hearn: I'm getting married, so that doesn't play in my park. We're getting married November 20th this year, right after Hawaii.
Question: Is everybody going to attend, even the drivers that aren't entered into it?

    Richie Hearn: I don't think so. I'm not going to go if I don't get entered. Before that I probably would have been gone 200 days out of the year, so it's nice to be home, and there's no reason to go there and watch another race.
Question: Maybe I can catch up with you for a minute after the celebrity race and you can give me your post-mortem on your effort this afternoon.

    Richie Hearn: Victory Speech! [Laughs]